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[liberationtech] Whatsapp, a Trojan horse for seekers of easy privacy?

J.M. Porup jm at
Thu Jan 15 11:58:33 PST 2015

Centralization is the problem.

If we assume that all centralized software has been commandeered (as we
should), I would rather see that commandeering evenly distributed around
the world, competing against each other, than concentrated into the
vile, toxic stew that is Silicon Valley in the US.

On 01/15/15 14:44, Al Billings wrote:
> You’re avoiding the question. Please name a nation state in which software can be produced which isn’t subject to the kind of legal pressures or potential requirements as the USA when it comes to national security, spying, and the like. 
> Russia? Nope. The UK? Nope. Germany? Nope. I could go on.
> So, since you can’t trust any software (so you say) produced in the USA, rather than just making snide comments about “Merkans,” please tell us which nation will not have these problems so we can all make our software there.
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 11:41 AM, J.M. Porup <jm at> wrote:
>> I know it's hard for some Merkans to understand, but there is this
>> magical place called "Rest of the World." There are even parts you
>> haven't bombed yet! You might try there.

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