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[liberationtech] Whatsapp, a Trojan horse for seekers of easy privacy?

Matt Mackall mpm at
Thu Jan 15 11:59:28 PST 2015

On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 11:44 -0800, Al Billings wrote:
> You’re avoiding the question. Please name a nation state in which
> software can be produced which isn’t subject to the kind of legal
> pressures or potential requirements as the USA when it comes to
> national security, spying, and the like. 
> Russia? Nope. The UK? Nope. Germany? Nope. I could go on.

Hell, none of these choices even get you out from under the NSA's thumb,
despite being off USA soil. If you are a communications company with a
non-trivial number of users, you will be a target of multiple national
security organizations. If you don't have the capability to do regular
CIA-level background checks on all your employees and contributors, you
can be infiltrated.

Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

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