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[liberationtech] Why are we leaving mesh networking to FireChat?

hellekin hellekin at gnu.org
Sat Jan 17 13:02:56 PST 2015


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Al, you keep attacking people and mixing topics.  Yet, as you mentioned,
you've been working for a prominent open source project for seven years.
 Can you tell us about the incentives of adding built-in DRM support
into Firefox, use Google Search instead of say, DuckDuckGo as the
default search engine, or favor Facebook as the prime partner for the
Social API?  Let me guess, ethics?  Oh, no, am I distracted!  Money!
Surely there's no money to include native support for Tor--oh yes,
actually there is, and it's coming, right?  So...  Maybe things are a
bit more complex that you keep describing them.

For some years the people with ethics and no money have been trying hard
to counter the deluge of sponsoring of the surveillance and control
machine over networked computing.  We're probably not very good at
marketing, but I think we're getting better, and thanks to the Snowden
Apocalypse people actually start listening, and there are plans to ramp
up funding.  I'm very glad people like lynX keep kicking the anthill of
accepted status quo, simply because the dominant system is so simple:
"if it works, it's because it's good" (thanks to IBM FUD and decades of
consistent Microsoft and Apple /innervation/ in software). Yet somehow,
someday, people wake up and realize that countless billions of tax
dollars went into such things as setting up global surveillance and
thwarting cryptography on a planetary scale.

Still you have the balls to come and say that the free software and P2P
people are a bunch of nuts.  Well, let me remind you that dominant
technology is not necessarily the best technology.  Check your history, sir.

Now yes, there's a problem for P2P to get support.  I mean, strong,
dedicated, long term support to make it happen.  Why is that?  Because
there are billion dollar industries that will simply vanish, unable to
keep with autonomous people.  That's a certainty.  Other billion dollar
industries will appear, but they would not be in the hands of a few rich
industrialists, because they would be so diffuse and local and based on
affinity and peer interdependence rather than some monstrous propaganda
machines.  The P2P era is coming anyway.  Drying its financial source
only makes it slower to come, and hopefully it will happen globally
before our civilization's collapse, which is getting more unlikely as
global issues are not being addressed and situations like the shooting
of a journal's entire redaction team bubbles up into a pro-surveillance,
"anti-terrorist", hypocrite support system for the anti-muslim tension
that allows the power that be to keep spoon-feeding "clash of
civilization" bullshit to hypnotized populations, while the
lobbying-legislative war machine is rolling up its guillotine law across
oceans (TPP, TTIP, TAFTA, CISPA, CISA, LALALA, PIPPIP...).

So yes, you're welcome to dismiss criticism as lunacy or critics as
pedantic arrogant people.  Be my guest.  Just don't spit on any
plugged-in electronics, you might hurt somebody.

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hk
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