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[liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

Inna Malina p.inna at
Sat Jul 4 10:56:43 PDT 2015


These are all valid points from aestetix and I am questioning the
legality and security of mining government and other personal
identification documents by Facebook. Who guarantees their safety? With
the identity theft on a rise, why I am forced to submit ID online? Who
will guarantee my and my family safety if my personal data becomes
accessible to Putin trolls? 

I called non-emergency line for police in Canada. They did not recommend
to submit any ID online, second, they could not locate any phone number
for Facebook. 

By submitting my IDs, the issue won't be resolved. I think Facebook
should really look at their policies and invest into a HelpDesk where
those issues can be addressed with real people instead of users seeking
help all over Internet in another country and through media. It is 4th
day I am locked out and there is no end to it. 

Happy Independence Day to our friends in US! 

Kind regards, 


On 2015-07-04 4:11 am, aestetix wrote: 

> Is there an appropriate way to call for Facebook to be more transparent
> about their data security and rentention policies?
> My concern here is not that Facebook wouldn't use SSL to collect an ID,
> but why they can demand the ID in the first place. Do they treat the ID
> (sensitive data) differently than just an email attachment? Who has
> access to it? How do they delete it? Do they have a big hard drive
> filled with ID documents? Will they share ID information with
> governments when subpoenaed?
> There are many more questions, but Facebook would do well to at least
> answer these to start with.
> On 7/4/15 12:03 PM, Hassen wrote:
> Hi Steve, I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure online channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she use the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately? Thank you. Hassen On 04 يول, 2015 ص 03:54, Steve Weis wrote: Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy. Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued: [1] For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail would suffice. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina <p.inna at <mailto:p.inna at>> wrote: I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over
1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't expect a photocopy of a
driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online. Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an efficient tool of the Kremlin." [2] Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 40000 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not using your real name," before requiring us to
change it. We cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny." [3] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too. [4] Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy "should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including everyone in the transgender community." So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he simply ignorant of what his staff does. *When will
Facebook start treating its users with basic respect, when will it stop political blocking and discrimination?* -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: [5]. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at companys at <mailto:companys at>. -- Hassen Selmi Incident Security Handler Access | Helpline PGP ID: 0x32E8A2BC Helpline PGP Fingerprint: 6CE6 221C 98EC F399 A04C 41B8 C46B ED33 32E8 A2BC Personal PGP ID: 0x3EF06D5C Personal PGP Fingerprint: AE55 2E3E 884A AFED 17A6 23B1 D7CA 4CBD 3EF0 6D5C Join the Access team - we're hiring! < [6]>

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