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[liberationtech] Whatsapp + textsecure?

Brian Conley brianc at smallworldnews.tv
Mon May 18 11:08:46 PDT 2015


Unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, "just trust us" is not a viable
solution when people's lives are at risk.

Essentially that is what WhatsApp, and Open Whisper Systems by extension,
are doing for now.

I'm really not interested in getting into a debate about whether or not we
should trust WhatsApp. I do trust TextSecure, bc it is open, and many other
like minds trust it as well.

The shit part, of course, is that an order of magnitude more people use
WhatsApp, and many of my colleagues are in harms way and using WhatsApp.

What would be hugely helpful is whether you are able to answer this
question:

How does TextSecure to TextSecure traffic look to the network, and is it in
anyway appreciably different than how WhatsApp or other traffic may appear?
Ideally I'll just get colleagues using TextSecure, given the unpredictable
nature of the current WhatsApp implementation. However, if that may raise a
flag itself, that's important to understand.

Thanks

Brian

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Frederic Jacobs <lists at fredericjacobs.com>
wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> I can only encourage you to read the announcement of the partnership:
> https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp/
>
> As stated in the post:
>
> > Your messages may already be encrypted
>
> Messages are *opportunistically* encrypted (if both receiving and sending
> client support it).
>
> > We’ll also be surfacing options for key verification in clients as
> the protocol integrations are completed.
>
> A partnership was announced, not a full deployment.
>
> Best,
>
> Frederic Jacobs <https://twitter.com/FredericJacobs>
> (Developer Signal - Open Whisper Systems)
>
> On 18 May 2015, at 18:08, Brian Conley <brianc at smallworldnews.tv> wrote:
>
> Anyone know with certainty whether whatsapp has actually implemented the
> textsecure encryption?
>
> There was big talk about this some months back but I haven't seen ajy
> update mention it nor is it mentioned in the playstore as a feature.
>
> Thanks
>
> Brian
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