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[liberationtech] New messenger to replace Adium and Pidgin

Travis Biehn tbiehn at
Sun Nov 1 08:10:58 PST 2015

"It works with all your old contacts."

Oh boy, is that being touted as a feature?


On Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 6:18 AM carlo von lynX <lynX at>

> Oh, at the last Tor developer meeting I heard that this project
> was looking for a new name since it doesn't make sense to wear
> "Tor" in it as if that was a quality endorsement.
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 03:43:58PM -0400, Kate Krauss wrote:
> > Today, Tor is releasing a beta version of Tor Messenger. Compared to
> > Adium or Pidgin (you can use your jabber address and all your
> > contacts)--it's pretty easy to use and much safer. It's in beta,
> Thanks for developing a tool that is less bad than Adium or Pidgin,
> but we should really move away from federation and its terrible
> lack of protection for the social graph.
> With Ricochet becoming more widespread as the *real* Tor way
> of doing IM, end-to-end using hidden services, why should an
> old-fashioned OTR/XMPP client/server less secure tool be
> promoted as *THE* Tor Messenger? It's just highly inappropriate.
> I had suggested to call it "WAM" as in "Wrong Architecture
> Messenger". Please let me know which more appropriate name I
> can feature on as a forth
> best practice recommendation... *after* Ricochet, Tox and
> Retroshare.
> Thanks.
> Sorry for trolling, but I can't help saying things.
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