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[liberationtech] Any project missing on the updated map of a "GNU Internet" ?

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at
Mon Oct 5 12:59:02 PDT 2015

I stand corrected.  I could've sworn Oneswarm was on that image at some point in the past, butI guess I'm getting that image confused with something else.  Sorry about that.
As for "widely-used" being synonymous with "hype"-- any takers other than me?  Especiallywrt anonymity-overlays?


     On Monday, October 5, 2015 1:48 PM, carlo von lynX <lynX at> wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 05:37:50PM +0000, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Glad to see you finally removed Oneswarm. :)

Onewhat? I don't know what that is.

> I personally find your chart difficult to read.  Nevertheless, I have a suggestionthat I believe would improve its quality for a general audience:
> You really need a color that means "available and widely-used".

No, I'm against furthering the effects of the hype-machine.
There are projects that are underused with no reasonable
explanation at all while there are others that are heavily
overused despite their limitations. Also, usage is not what
this map is about. It is about which code is available and
actually working for the purpose of fixing the Internet. It
is not about how many people have been unable to ship it to
Linux distributions and make a big fuzz out of.

TAILS relies completely on binaries compiled on US-American
soil. I have no idea why I should trust that. GNUnet file
sharing works great, there is plenty of interesting political
documentaries on it. I don't understand why GNUnet has an
insecure IRC channel and people on it do not actually use it.

Hype is the instrument of control of the spin doctors.
This community is just as affected as any other.

Thanks for your opinion however.

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