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[liberationtech] New messenger to replace Adium and Pidgin

carlo von lynX lynX at
Fri Oct 30 03:18:51 PDT 2015

Oh, at the last Tor developer meeting I heard that this project
was looking for a new name since it doesn't make sense to wear
"Tor" in it as if that was a quality endorsement.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 03:43:58PM -0400, Kate Krauss wrote:
> Today, Tor is releasing a beta version of Tor Messenger. Compared to
> Adium or Pidgin (you can use your jabber address and all your
> contacts)--it's pretty easy to use and much safer. It's in beta,

Thanks for developing a tool that is less bad than Adium or Pidgin,
but we should really move away from federation and its terrible
lack of protection for the social graph.

With Ricochet becoming more widespread as the *real* Tor way
of doing IM, end-to-end using hidden services, why should an
old-fashioned OTR/XMPP client/server less secure tool be
promoted as *THE* Tor Messenger? It's just highly inappropriate.

I had suggested to call it "WAM" as in "Wrong Architecture
Messenger". Please let me know which more appropriate name I
can feature on as a forth
best practice recommendation... *after* Ricochet, Tox and


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