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[liberationtech] Fwd: [WhatsApp backdoor allows snooping on encrypted messages]

FL flucom.02 at
Sat Jan 14 05:17:07 PST 2017

I'm not sure that every American company, by law, must implement a backdoor, as you imply. The last time I checked, iMessage was a very secure platform with no known vulnerabilities — which in fact has made Apple struggle with US agencies more than a few times.


> On 14-01-2017, at 10:02, carlo von lynX <lynX at> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 07:26:29PM -0500, Sebastian Benthall wrote:
> I've also read
> and
> and to me it seems like all of the articles are
> technically describing the same procedure.
> The difference is only in the framing.
> For Facebook it is a necessity that people not be
> bothered by key changes, for anyone in the libtech
> business it is an alarming signal that MITM is
> technicaly possible by default and users must be
> specifically aware of the issue to avoid it.
> But why is anyone even expecting any true privacy
> from an American proprietary product? Have the
> PRISM and MUSCULAR programs suddenly been discontinued?
> Has Freedom Act amended NSLs also for non-Americans?
> How could Facebook afford not to pump everything they
> can get into XKEYSCORE as before? Why did the European
> Supreme Court rule that the US is not a safe harbor
> for EU citizen data? Did I miss any recent developments?
> Is it the general strategy to have people debate whether
> there is a backdoor when by law Whatsapp MUST have some
> backdoor?
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