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[liberationtech] If Muslims are blocked by the U.S., should we respond?

Terry Winograd winograd at cs.stanford.edu
Sat Jan 28 11:43:35 PST 2017


There is an academic petition at
https://sites.google.com/view/notoimmigrationeo/home
--t

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Michael M. J. Fischer <mfischer at mit.edu> wrote:
> both symbolic and substantive moves are needed
>
> since much of what the new administration is doing is symbolic signaling, we
> need to be visible in that space too
>
> meanwhile substantive actions such as holding meetings in places all
> academics and technologists are welcome is important, both physical and
> virtual
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Yosem Companys <companys at stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com>
>
> I raise the question of whether we should respond to the proposed U.S. ban
> on nationals of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen.
>
> Scott Aaronson reports one of his MIT students will probably have to leave
> if he can't get his visa removed. We all know how many Iranians are
> world-class technologists, including in computer science and electrical
> engineering.
>
> I hope many from outside the United States speak up. The issues around Trump
> make it hard to be objective here.
>
> Should we take a stand?
>
> If so, should it be symbolic or substantive?
>
> Symbolic actions could include:
>
> A resolution
> Establishing remote hubs for our meetings in Iran and one of the Arabic
> speaking countries. ISOC has funded remote hubs.
> Outreach in Farsi and Arabic to show that whatever actions the government
> takes, the IETF welcomes participation. This could be as simple as Jari
> Arkko writing a letter to the editor of the leading newspapers with an
> invitation for all to join our work.
>
> Some might also think that we should move the July 2018 meeting from San
> Francisco to a location accessible to more of our members, perhaps to Mexico
> or Canada.
> ------------
>
> As we discuss this, I urge everyone to avoid distracting comments about U.S.
> politics. We're not going to change many minds here pro or con the new U.S.
> President.
>
> Instead, let's keep the discussion here to how we should respond to a major
> nation refusing visas to so many of our members.
>
> Dave Burstein
>
>
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