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[liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

Wayne Moore wmoore at
Sun Jan 29 21:28:57 PST 2017

Not my list, I'm at best a lurker here although I do think I get 
valuable information. I'm neither a Democrat or Republican either but I 
don't consider myself (or this list) apolitical but I suppose I'm making 
a distinction between partisan and political.

In any case my main point was that there was an accusation of "numerous 
factual errors" with no supporting evidence or even specificity as to 
what the errors were so we could verify them ourselves and no (to me) 
obvious errors of fact on rereading the original post. With all the 
whining about "fake news" lately that raised my hackles. Apologies if 
that's inappropriate. I'll go back to  lurking now ;-)

On 1/29/2017 20:13, Yosem Companys wrote:
> From
>     The Program on Liberation Technology at Stanford's Center on
>     Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law seeks to understand
>     how information technology can be used to *improve governance*,
>     *empower the poor*, *defend human rights*, promote economic
>     development, and pursue a variety of other social goods.
>     The past few years have seen explosive growth in the use of
>     information technology to defend human rights, improve governance,
>     fight corruption, deter electoral fraud, *expose government
>     wrongdoing*, *empower the poor*, promote economic development,
>     *protect the environment*, educate consumers, *improve public
>     health*, and pursue a variety of other social goods. 
> I did not write the aforementioned text. But...
>   * I consider refugees as poor people who need empowerment and need
>     help defending their human rights.
>   * I consider fighting against human-caused climate change protecting
>     the environment.
>   * I consider getting rid of Obamacare as inimical with improving
>     public health.
>   * I consider revealing fake news and politicized science by the
>     government as exposing government wrongdoing.
>   * I consider firing civil servants because they don't agree with
>     your views as not improving governance.
> And keep in mind that I am an Independent. I am neither a Democrat nor 
> a Republican.
> For those of you who have followed us for years on this mailing list 
> and Twitter, you know that we try to be non-partisan, as some of our 
> researchers are Democrat, others are Republicans, others are 
> Anarchists, others are Socialists, and so on. We try to tweet various 
> perspectives so long as they do not violate our principles.
> Our number one principle is the use of technology to promote freedom, 
> democracy, development, and the rule of law. Any group that uses 
> technology to curtail the rights of some groups at the expense of 
> others is violating this principle.
> Best,
> Yosem
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Wayne Moore <wmoore at 
> <mailto:wmoore at>> wrote:
>     Such as? None that I caught. I would have thought "liberation"
>     itself was a strong political view anyway.
>     On 1/29/2017 13:59, Carolyn Santo wrote:
>         There are numerous factual errors in Leila's email.
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