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[liberationtech] GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 released - Next Generation Internet Prototype

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Thu Jun 7 07:03:21 PDT 2018

Looks like a fantastic project, but if they want it to catch on and get people to contribute, they will need a much better name than GNUnet.

GNU is an insider geek acronym that stinks of esoteric terminology. It feels very limiting to others who don't know the history of GNU. You will need a dynamic coalition of people with a variety of skills (marketing, design, business, etc) to change the internet from the ground up.

Also GNU is too closely affiliated with Richard Stallman, who struggles to reach mass audiences because of a similar issue. Regardless of his ideals, he is way too geeky and socially lacking. It is crucial to conquer ignorance when it comes to the power of diversity   ;)

I don't have a better name off the top of my head, but GNUnet will have to go IMHO. You need a name and marketing concept that is very foundational and has a clean recognizable metaphor (like Fabric).

Hopefully changing the name doesn't break the project (codewise, or politically for those invested in the name GNUnet) but I argue that it will be essential to realize true success of such an ambitious effort.

---- On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 03:10:04 -0700 carlo von lynX <lynX at> wrote ----

Since it's been four years waiting, I forward this FYI.

To reduce the four year figure in the future, maybe more

people should work on this. File under: Next Generation

Internet, properly designed alternatives to current

blockchain codebases, foundational work for distributed,

not just decentralized networking. If you wonder why we'd

need a new Internet,

----- Forwarded message from Christian Grothoff <grothoff at> -----

Dear all,

We are pleased to announce the release of GNUnet 0.11.0pre66. This is a

pre-release to assist developers and downstream packagers to test the

package before the final release after four years of development.

In terms of usability, users should be aware that there are still a very

large number of known open issues in particular with respect to ease of

use, but also some critical privacy issues especially for mobile users.

Also, the nascent network is tiny (~200 peers) and thus unlikely to

provide good anonymity or extensive amounts of interesting information.

As a result, the 0.11.0 release and especially this pre-release are only

suitable for early adopters with some reasonable pain tolerance.

License change


GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 is the first release that will be made under the

GNU Affero General Public License v3+. After a significant amount of

internal discussion lead constructively by Lynx (thanks!), the

conclusion has been that the IPC and REST APIs should be extended with

support for an GNUNET_MESSAGE_TYPE_AGPL or /agpl request that enables

users of these client/service-style APIs to download the source code.

Naturally, the discussion on licensing may not necessarily end here, but

at this point we are not aware of any dissent in the community and this

release seems to be the right time to make such a change. While the

final decision was not subjected to a broad feedback round, this was

done simply on the grounds that this placement of the AGPL API seems to

addresses all concerns that were raised. Finally, thanks to the

copyright assignment all developers are participating in, the community

will be able to revise this decision later if necessary.

It should also be noted that this change does not impose additional

restrictions on the licensing models of GNU Taler or pEp: both projects

have agreements with GNUnet e.V. that ensure that they can make

decisions that fit these applications (not to mention significant parts

of GNU Taler are already AGPLv3+ already).

About GNUnet


GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking. GNUnet's

primary design goals are to protect the privacy of its users and to

guard itself against attacks or abuse. At this point, GNUnet offers four

primary applications on top of the framework:

The file-sharing service allows anonymous censorship-resistant

file-sharing. Files, searches and search results are encrypted to make

it hard to control, track or censor users. GNUnet's anonymity protocol

(gap) is designed to make it difficult to link users to their

file-sharing activities. Users can also individually trade-off between

performance and anonymity. Despite providing anonymity, GNUnet's

excess-based economy rewards contributing users with better performance.

The VPN service allows offering of services within GNUnet (using the

.gnu TLD) and can be used to tunnel IPv4 and IPv6 traffic over the P2P

network. The VPN can also be used for IP protocol translation (6-to-4,

4-to-6) and it is possible to tunnel IP traffic over GNUnet (6-over-4,

4-over-6). Note that at this stage, it is possible for peers to

determine the IP address at which services are hosted, so the VPN does

not offer anonymity.

The GNU Name System (GNS) provides a fully-decentralized and censorship

resistant replacement for DNS. GNS can be used alongside DNS and can be

integrated with legacy applications (such as traditional browsers) with

moderate effort. GNS provides censorship-resistance, memorable names and

cryptographic integrity protection for the records. Note that at this

stage, it is possible for a strong adversary to determine which peer is

responsible for a particular zone, GNS does not offer strong anonymity.

However, GNS offers query privacy, that is other participants can

typically not decrypt queries or replies.

Conversation allows voice calls to be made over GNUnet. Users are

identified using GNS and voice data is encrypted. However, Conversation

does not provide anonymity at this stage --- other peers may observe a

connection between the two endpoints and it is possible to determine the

IP address associated with a phone.

Other applications, including in particular the SecuShare social

networking application, are still strictly experimental.

For developers, GNUnet offers:

 Access to all subsystems via clean C APIs

 Mostly written in C, but extensions possible in other languages

 Multi-process architecture for fault-isolation between components

 Use of event loop and processes instead of threads for ease of


 Extensive logging and statistics facilities

 Integrated testing library for automatic deployment of large-scale

 experiments with tens of thousands of peers

Noteworthy improvements in 0.11.0pre66:


 Improved documentation, converting Drupal handbook

 to Texinfo (thanks ng0!)

 GNU Name System now can take over arbitrary TLDs, and

 support for conversion from DNS zones to GNS exists

 Critical bugfixes in CORE, DHT and CADET subsystems

The above is just the short list, our bugtracker lists over 350

individual issues that were resolved


Known Issues


We have a few issues that are most likely not resolved in the final

release. Users should be aware of these issues, which we hope to address


 There are known major design issues in TRANSPORT, ATS and CORE

 which will need to be addressed for usability, performance

 and security.

 There are known moderate implementation limitations in CADET that

 impact performance.

 There are known moderate design issues in FS that also impact

 usability and performance.

 There are minor implementation limitations in SET that create

 unnecessary attack surface for availability.

 The Web site and manuals still need significant rework.

 Subsystems related to SecuShare and RPS remain experimental.

In addition to this list, you may also want to consult our bug tracker

at which lists about 200 more specific issues.



The GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 source code is available from all GNU FTP

mirrors. The GTK frontends (which includes the gnunet-setup tool) are a

separate download. Please note that some mirrors might still be


GNUnet on a FTP mirror near you

GNUnet GTK on an FTP mirror near you

GNUnet FUSE on an FTP mirror near you

GNUnet on the primary GNU FTP server

GNUnet GTK on the primary GNU FTP server

GNUnet FUSE on the primary GNU FTP server

Note that GNUnet is now started using "gnunet-arm -s". GNUnet should be

stopped using "gnunet-arm -e".



This release was the work of many people. The following people

contributed code and were thus easily identified:

Christian Grothoff, Matthias Wachs, Bart Polot, Sree Harsha Totakura,

Nathan S. Evans, Martin Schanzenbach, Julius Bünger, Nils Gillmann,

Philipp Tölke, Florian Dold, Руслан Ижбулатов, tg(x), David Barksdale,

Christian Fuchs, Nils Durner, Omar Tarabai, Maximilian Szengel, Supriti

Singh, lurchi, David Brodski, xrs, Fabian Oehlmann, Carlo von lynX,

Christophe Genevey Metat, Jeffrey Burdges, Safey A.Halim, Daniel Golle,

Phil, Bruno Cabral, Ji Lu, Heikki Lindholm, Markus Teich, t3sserakt,

Claudiu Olteanu, Marcello Stanisci, Moon, anryko, Arthur Dewarumez,

Julien Morvan, Adnan H, Lin Tong, Andreas Fuchs, Christian Rupp, jah,

Alejandra Morales, Matthias Kolja Miehl, Andrew Cann, Antonio Ojea,

Pascal Mainini, amirouche and hark.

Further Information


GNUnet Homepage

GNUnet Bug tracker




GNUnet-developers mailing list

GNUnet-developers at


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