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[liberationtech] Stanford Liberationtech Needs Your Help
tanja.aitamurto at gmail.com
Thu Jun 14 14:01:45 PDT 2018
Happy to help in designing and developing the website, and also with the
other stuff the best I can
Thanks, all, for your continuous valuable work in the LT space
Tanja Aitamurto, PhD
Management Science & Engineering
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:43 PM Yosem Companys <ycompanys at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ping me off line to chat about how I can help.
> Will do, Thomas. Thanks for the offer.
>> > - Determine whether to maintain LT's mailing lists on Mailman
>> > <https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech> or to
>> > transition them to a content management system (e.g., Discourse.org).
>> If it ain't broken, don't touch the thing. "Stick with mailman" is what
>> gets my vote. I don't want yet-another-site-to-log-into to read LT
>> discussions. I want LT right here in my mailbox.
>> It's low barrier and facilitates interaction, as opposed to some CMS
>> that now I have to go and log into and then figure out what's
>> interesting or not, and what I may want to read or reply to... I'm never
>> going to do that...(*)
>> E-mail is right there in my inbox: I have my own copy, I can do with it
>> what I want, I don't have to log into some other place, it fits nicely
>> in my existing workflows... and mailman is kind enough to give me a
>> searchable archive. Now, whether we stick with Stanford's mailman or
>> not, /that/ I don't care too much about, I care that it's not locked up
>> behind some other system I now have to have an account with... I care
>> that it stays an e-mail list.
>> Regardless of whatever CMS we pick, if we were to go that route, there's
>> always going to be some problem with it where we want to do X or Y and
>> we can't quite do it. With e-mail, everyone can pick the client they
>> like: (al)pine, mutt, Thunderbird, outlook (if you're so included) or
>> gmail (yuk). Everyone gets to pick the tool they like best, instead of
>> everyone being forced to use system X or Y and being strapped into the
>> harness of how that tool thinks you ought to interact with its world.
>> I think that part of the value of the LT mailman service is that is
>> specifically is NOT an Internet forum and that it specifically is an
>> e-mail list, which facilitates conversations where the focus is on
>> content and ideas. If I want a forum, I'll go to reddit or some similar
>> site. (Speaking of which, https://www.reddit.com/r/liberationtech
>> apparently has been banned? Is this this same LibTech?)
>> Remind me what it is that Discourse offers that plain-text e-mail does
>> (*) I don't mean this as a threat, at all (after all, I have nothing to
>> threaten you with), but if you're putting LT behind some other
>> wall/gate, I know myself well enough to be able to tell you with high
>> confidence that you'll lose me from LT... and I think a couple of others
>> as well...
> Those on the list who suggested Discourse.com did it so we could have more
> functionality than just mass emailing. Here are Discourse.com's key
> - https://www.discourse.org/features
> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_(software)
> In any case, it appears that Discourse.com allows you to have their
> platform while maintaining the Mailman mailing lists. Of course, we could
> do that anyway to make sure everyone is happy.
> Independent of whether we use Discourse.com, list migration to a new
> domain is pretty simple. All that would change is the domain name. Other
> than that, list subscribers would likely not even notice that we've
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