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[liberationtech] Plan for a New Liberationtech, 2.0

Hapee de Groot hapee at
Sat Nov 10 08:31:24 PST 2018

Hi All,

according to me Greenhost is absolutely not out of the running, so I
contacted Yosem directly and hope you will give us some more time so
sort this out.

Kind regards,

Hapee from Greenhost.

On 10-11-18 17:22, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm in the process of migrating Liberationtech from Stanford to a new
> independent site, but I have run into a difficulty.
> Most of you recommended Greenhost for hosting services, but I have yet
> to receive a reply from Greenhost despite multiple email attempts. 
> Is there another hosting service you'd recommend? Please remember that
> the criteria are the following:
>   * The host should operate from a location that has the privacy- and
>     security-friendliest laws in the world;
>   * The host should also be the most privacy- and security-friendly
>     host in the world (or the second most, assuming Greenhost is #1 in
>     this area); and,
>   * The host should offer great customer service.
> Our original plan (described below) was to ask Greenhost both to host
> and develop our new website. Now that Greenhost appears to be out of
> the running, I intend to explore the other options you suggested below
> for website development.
> Thanks,
> Yosem
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Yosem Companys <ycompanys at
> <mailto:ycompanys at>> wrote:
>     Below is the amended plan for the new Liberationtech based on your
>     feedback. Should you have any questions, please let me know.
>       * *Corporate Governance: Fiscal Sponsorship, NOT Legal Status*.
>         Most of you recommended that we not incorporate legally as a
>         501(c)3 at this time. Instead, you recommended that we use a
>         fiscal sponsor instead. A number of fiscal sponsors were
>         proposed including Creative Commons; the Electronic Frontier
>         Foundation; Freedom House; the Free Software Foundation; the
>         Information Ethics and Equity Institute; Mozilla; Oasis; the
>         Open Source Institute; the Public Sphere Project; the Puerto
>         Rico Science, Technology, and Research Trust; the Renewable
>         Freedom Foundation in Germany; Software Freedom Conservancy;
>         and Wikimedia. There is also the Tides Foundation. The
>         advantage of fiscal sponsors is that they can accept
>         charitable contributions on behalf of Liberationtech and take
>         care of the legal and accounting requirements needed to
>         maintain the organization, thereby freeing Liberationtech to
>         pursue its vision and mission. We have decided to find fiscal
>         sponsors for different legal jurisdictions to ensure that we
>         have a global presence. [Down the line, the Sustainable
>         Economies Law Center was proposed as an organization to help
>         Liberationtech incorporate as a 501(c)3.]
>       * *Vision*. To research, design, and implement technologies for
>         social good, especially for privacy and security.
>       * *Mission*. To create and support a community of practice
>         around technology for social good that incorporates privacy
>         and security by design.  
>       * *Hosting Service*. Most of you expressed concerns about
>         hosting in the U.S. and asked that Liberationtech use the most
>         privacy- and security-friendly legal jurisdiction instead.
>         Most of you also recommended Greenhost. 
>       * *Website Design and Development*. Some of you kindly offered
>         to work on a pro bono basis to design and develop the
>         Liberationtech website. Others suggested contacting groups
>         such as the Agile Collective, Aspiration Technologies, CoTech,
>         Digital Life Collective,, and Greenhost for these
>         services. What should the website have? You asked that we keep
>         the Liberationtech website simple. Beyond a basic description
>         and a list of the board of advisers, you asked that we do the
>         following:
>           o *Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)*. Most of you asked that we
>             build a site that is as simple as possible so that it may
>             be viewed even by those who have slow devices or weak
>             bandwidth. 
>           o *Just a mailing list, please*. Most of you also asked that
>             we only use open-source mailing list software that has
>             been around for a long time for convenience (i.e., you get
>             the email in your inbox) or security reasons and to make
>             it easier for any list subscriber to download the list or
>             port it from one device to another. 
>           o *Use Matrix and/or Discourse*. Enough of you feel
>             passionate enough about using Matrix and/or Discourse
>             beyond the basic mailing list capabilities that we've
>             decided to do so.
>           o *Let me create my own list, please*. Many of you asked
>             that we allow list subscribers to create their own lists
>             around specific subjects, whether by chapter (read more
>             below), geography, sector, or topic. For example, some of
>             you asked that Calls for Papers (CfPs), jobs, and
>             announcements be moved to separate mailing lists.
>           o *Make the site mobile*. Self-explanatory.
>           o *Mirror it*. Many of you asked that we mirror the site at
>             a number of locations for security reasons.
>       * *Incubation*. Because we've decided to continue to research,
>         design, and implement technologies for social good that
>         incorporate privacy- and security-by-design, we aim to raise
>         funds to become an incubator of technology for social good,
>         where the funds would go to support the development of
>         projects based on the ideas the community likes the most.
>         We'll also try to incubate student projects on tech for social
>         good that could be sponsored by companies to help students get
>         jobs post-graduation.
>       * *Directory*. Some of you suggested that we create a wiki (or
>         similar) with tips, good practices, tools, and apps for secure
>         communication and digital privacy, along with a list of the
>         organizations and platforms that work in the technology for
>         social good space. 
>       * *Funding*. Some of you suggested that Liberationtech contact
>         foundations such as Omidyar and the Open Technology Fund.
>         Others suggested that Liberationtech engage in crowdfunding.
>         Yet others suggested charging a yearly fee for people to
>         create their own Liberationtech chapters in geographies around
>         the world.
>     One question that lingers is the following:
>       * What is the key differentiator of Liberationtech vis-a-vis
>         other existing groups, organizations, and/or sites in the space? 
>     If any of you want to take a stab at answering the question,
>     please do so. 
>     Otherwise, Gonzalo and I will be more than happy to do a review of
>     the field and try to answer that question in a more explicit manner.
>     Thanks,
>     Yosem
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