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[liberationtech] Plan for a New Liberationtech, 2.0

Allen Gunn gunner at
Sat Nov 10 12:39:03 PST 2018


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On 11/10/18 9:55 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Hi All,
> It seems that I may not have emailed Hapee and Sacha at their
> seldom-read email addresses. Hapee and I have already exchanged emails,
> so we'll hopefully start the process soon with Greenhost.
> Thanks,
> Yosem
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 8:49 AM Hapee de Groot <hapee at
> <mailto:hapee at>> wrote:
>     Hi All,
>     according to me Greenhost is absolutely not out of the running, so I
>     contacted Yosem directly and hope you will give us some more time so
>     sort this out.
>     Kind regards,
>     Hapee from Greenhost.
>     On 10-11-18 17:22, Yosem Companys wrote:
>>     Hi All,
>>     I'm in the process of migrating Liberationtech from Stanford to a
>>     new independent site, but I have run into a difficulty.
>>     Most of you recommended Greenhost for hosting services, but I have
>>     yet to receive a reply from Greenhost despite multiple email
>>     attempts. 
>>     Is there another hosting service you'd recommend? Please remember
>>     that the criteria are the following:
>>       * The host should operate from a location that has the privacy-
>>         and security-friendliest laws in the world;
>>       * The host should also be the most privacy- and
>>         security-friendly host in the world (or the second most,
>>         assuming Greenhost is #1 in this area); and,
>>       * The host should offer great customer service.
>>     Our original plan (described below) was to ask Greenhost both to
>>     host and develop our new website. Now that Greenhost appears to be
>>     out of the running, I intend to explore the other options you
>>     suggested below for website development.
>>     Thanks,
>>     Yosem
>>     On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Yosem Companys <ycompanys at
>>     <mailto:ycompanys at>> wrote:
>>         Below is the amended plan for the new Liberationtech based on
>>         your feedback. Should you have any questions, please let me know.
>>           * *Corporate Governance: Fiscal Sponsorship, NOT Legal
>>             Status*. Most of you recommended that we not incorporate
>>             legally as a 501(c)3 at this time. Instead, you
>>             recommended that we use a fiscal sponsor instead. A number
>>             of fiscal sponsors were proposed including Creative
>>             Commons; the Electronic Frontier Foundation; Freedom
>>             House; the Free Software Foundation; the Information
>>             Ethics and Equity Institute; Mozilla; Oasis; the Open
>>             Source Institute; the Public Sphere Project; the Puerto
>>             Rico Science, Technology, and Research Trust; the
>>             Renewable Freedom Foundation in Germany; Software Freedom
>>             Conservancy; and Wikimedia. There is also the Tides
>>             Foundation. The advantage of fiscal sponsors is that they
>>             can accept charitable contributions on behalf of
>>             Liberationtech and take care of the legal and accounting
>>             requirements needed to maintain the organization, thereby
>>             freeing Liberationtech to pursue its vision and mission.
>>             We have decided to find fiscal sponsors for different
>>             legal jurisdictions to ensure that we have a global
>>             presence. [Down the line, the Sustainable Economies Law
>>             Center was proposed as an organization to help
>>             Liberationtech incorporate as a 501(c)3.]
>>           * *Vision*. To research, design, and implement technologies
>>             for social good, especially for privacy and security.
>>           * *Mission*. To create and support a community of practice
>>             around technology for social good that incorporates
>>             privacy and security by design.  
>>           * *Hosting Service*. Most of you expressed concerns about
>>             hosting in the U.S. and asked that Liberationtech use the
>>             most privacy- and security-friendly legal jurisdiction
>>             instead. Most of you also recommended Greenhost. 
>>           * *Website Design and Development*. Some of you kindly
>>             offered to work on a pro bono basis to design and develop
>>             the Liberationtech website. Others suggested contacting
>>             groups such as the Agile Collective, Aspiration
>>             Technologies, CoTech, Digital Life Collective,,
>>             and Greenhost for these services. What should the website
>>             have? You asked that we keep the Liberationtech website
>>             simple. Beyond a basic description and a list of the board
>>             of advisers, you asked that we do the following:
>>               o *Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)*. Most of you asked that
>>                 we build a site that is as simple as possible so that
>>                 it may be viewed even by those who have slow devices
>>                 or weak bandwidth. 
>>               o *Just a mailing list, please*. Most of you also asked
>>                 that we only use open-source mailing list software
>>                 that has been around for a long time for convenience
>>                 (i.e., you get the email in your inbox) or security
>>                 reasons and to make it easier for any list subscriber
>>                 to download the list or port it from one device to
>>                 another. 
>>               o *Use Matrix and/or Discourse*. Enough of you feel
>>                 passionate enough about using Matrix and/or Discourse
>>                 beyond the basic mailing list capabilities that we've
>>                 decided to do so.
>>               o *Let me create my own list, please*. Many of you asked
>>                 that we allow list subscribers to create their own
>>                 lists around specific subjects, whether by chapter
>>                 (read more below), geography, sector, or topic. For
>>                 example, some of you asked that Calls for Papers
>>                 (CfPs), jobs, and announcements be moved to separate
>>                 mailing lists.
>>               o *Make the site mobile*. Self-explanatory.
>>               o *Mirror it*. Many of you asked that we mirror the site
>>                 at a number of locations for security reasons.
>>           * *Incubation*. Because we've decided to continue to
>>             research, design, and implement technologies for social
>>             good that incorporate privacy- and security-by-design, we
>>             aim to raise funds to become an incubator of technology
>>             for social good, where the funds would go to support the
>>             development of projects based on the ideas the community
>>             likes the most. We'll also try to incubate student
>>             projects on tech for social good that could be sponsored
>>             by companies to help students get jobs post-graduation.
>>           * *Directory*. Some of you suggested that we create a wiki
>>             (or similar) with tips, good practices, tools, and apps
>>             for secure communication and digital privacy, along with a
>>             list of the organizations and platforms that work in the
>>             technology for social good space. 
>>           * *Funding*. Some of you suggested that Liberationtech
>>             contact foundations such as Omidyar and the Open
>>             Technology Fund. Others suggested that Liberationtech
>>             engage in crowdfunding. Yet others suggested charging a
>>             yearly fee for people to create their own Liberationtech
>>             chapters in geographies around the world.
>>         One question that lingers is the following:
>>           * What is the key differentiator of Liberationtech vis-a-vis
>>             other existing groups, organizations, and/or sites in the
>>             space? 
>>         If any of you want to take a stab at answering the question,
>>         please do so. 
>>         Otherwise, Gonzalo and I will be more than happy to do a
>>         review of the field and try to answer that question in a more
>>         explicit manner.
>>         Thanks,
>>         Yosem
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