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[liberationtech] Stanford Liberationtech: Ready for migration?

carlo von lynX lynX at
Tue Sep 4 23:50:16 PDT 2018

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 05:23:16PM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote:
>       - *Just a mailing list, please*. Most of you also asked that we only
>       use open-source mailing list software that has been around for a
> long time
>       for convenience (i.e., you get the email in your inbox) or
> security reasons
>       and to make it easier for any list subscriber to download the
> list or port
>       it from one device to another. (A minority of you asked Liberationtech to

Making collective decisions based on an incomplete view of the options
can always lead to suboptimal choices.

>       move to or, but the majority eschewed using any
>       closed platform or anything more complex than a mailing list.)

Neither matrix nor discourse are closed platforms, therefore the
majority made an uninformed decision. Is it correct that both of
these open source packages can emulate mailing list behaviour
while offering richer experience to those who can make use of it?

>    - *Incubation*. A number of you asked that Liberationtech continue to
>    vet technology for social good projects as we have long done on the mailing
>    list. Some of you asked that Liberationtech work to raise funds to become
>    an incubator of technology for social good, where the funds would go to
>    support the development of projects based on the ideas the community likes
>    the most.

That would require a way for a community to develop a consensus.
MLs are pretty bad at that.

>    - *Directory*. Some of you suggested that we create a wiki (or similar)
>    with tips, good practices, tools, and apps for secure communication and
>    digital privacy, along with a list of the organizations and platforms that
>    work in the technology for social good space.

Who's going to keep all of that up to date and why hasn't she or he done
it on one of the hundreds of existing open wikis already?

>    - *Funding*. Some of you suggested that Liberationtech contact
>    foundations such as Omidyar and the Open Technology Fund. Others suggested
>    that Liberationtech engage in crowdfunding. Yet others suggested charging a
>    yearly fee for people to create their own Liberationtech chapters in
>    geographies around the world.

What makes Liberationtech different from the many existing organizations
in this field to legitimize detracting funding from other projects?

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