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[liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

Doug Schuler douglas at publicsphereproject.org
Fri Feb 1 09:33:39 PST 2019


I probably shouldn't have dragged Dick's name into this but here's my take
on what he was saying.

IF the ethics / social responsibility material presented in college is
relegated to a single, required course (and is not integrated with more
technical material throughout) then it likely to be disparaged by students
and teachers alike in the department — and thereby have little effect.

This is evidence from many many years ago but the engineers I worked with
at Boeing who had had an ethics course acted like it was total BS, a waste
of time, and not their concern. I'm not saying that they all felt this way
but their views seemed to be fairly commonplace — which is why I thought
that Dick's comments were probably pretty relevant.

— Doug





On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Yosem Companys <ycompanys at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler <
> douglas at publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>
>> Good info!
>>
>> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
>> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
>> take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
>> this in the engineering department at MIT.
>>
>> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>>
>> — Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
>> <cpsr-activists+tallpaul=gmail.com at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>>
>>> speaking of curriculum:
>>> Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard
>>> Gazette
>>>
>>> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists list)
>>> <cpsr-activists+ycompanys=gmail.com at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list)
>>>> <cpsr-activists+jjohnson=uiwizards.com at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> CPSR Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
>>>>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
>>>>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything online
>>>>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jeff Johnson
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