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[liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

Yosem Companys ycompanys at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 09:52:11 PST 2019


Good point, Terry. I didn't think of that.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:48 AM Terry Winograd (via cpsr-activists list)
<cpsr-activists+winograd=cs.stanford.edu at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:

> This is an ongoing debate.  The observation about how students treat a
> single required ethics course is valid, and therefore it requires a lot of
> work to make it more engaging (as Stanford is trying to do now).  The
> problem with trying to integrate it into courses in general is that either
> it is taught by faculty who have the same "let's get this over with"
> attitude, or by special visiting faculty who drop in for a session or two,
> and it still isn't integrated and leads to complaints about losing course
> time that the faculty need for the "real material.".  Of course it depends
> on the local culture and personalities.
> --t
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:35 AM Doug Schuler (via cpsr-activists list)
> <cpsr-activists+douglas=publicsphereproject.org at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I probably shouldn't have dragged Dick's name into this but here's my
>> take on what he was saying.
>>
>> IF the ethics / social responsibility material presented in college is
>> relegated to a single, required course (and is not integrated with more
>> technical material throughout) then it likely to be disparaged by students
>> and teachers alike in the department — and thereby have little effect.
>>
>> This is evidence from many many years ago but the engineers I worked with
>> at Boeing who had had an ethics course acted like it was total BS, a waste
>> of time, and not their concern. I'm not saying that they all felt this way
>> but their views seemed to be fairly commonplace — which is why I thought
>> that Dick's comments were probably pretty relevant.
>>
>> — Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Yosem Companys <ycompanys at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler <
>>> douglas at publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good info!
>>>>
>>>> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
>>>> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
>>>> take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
>>>> this in the engineering department at MIT.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>>>>
>>>> — Doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
>>>> <cpsr-activists+tallpaul=gmail.com at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> speaking of curriculum:
>>>>> Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum –
>>>>> Harvard Gazette
>>>>>
>>>>> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists
>>>>> list) <cpsr-activists+ycompanys=gmail.com at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists
>>>>>> list) <cpsr-activists+jjohnson=uiwizards.com at lists.cpsr.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CPSR Folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
>>>>>>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
>>>>>>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything online
>>>>>>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jeff Johnson
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