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--></style></head><body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">In TextSecure, the password unlocks the local db of encrypted SMS messages.<br>
Lose the password, lose the messages.<br>
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Also, the point of TextSecure is that it uses text (SMS) messages as a transport, which often work when Internet access (or even plain phone calls) do(es)n't.<br>
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axel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Wasabee <wasabee18@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">

  
    
  
  
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">hi<br />
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      thank for your answer. what is the role of the password? is it
      used to access the TextSecure app? is it a shared password with
      the recipient?<br />
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      On 10/07/2013 15:29, Albert López wrote:<br />
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        </font>Hello Wasabee,
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        <div>I've used TextSecure but I found that it's like sending
          encrypted SMS, therefore you have the consequent cost
          associated to it. I don't know if Heml.is will be a kind of
          secure whatsapp or if it will have the same approach of
          TextSecure.</div>
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        <div>Correct me if I'm wrong with the SMS stuff. It was what I
          thought once I received my bill.<br />
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          <div><font size="1" face="Courier New">gpg --keyserver
              pgp.mit.edu --search-keys EEE5A447</font></div>
          <div><font size="1" face="Courier New"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xEEE5A447&op=vindex">http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xEEE5A447&op=vindex</a></font></div>
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            <hr id="stopSpelling" />Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:31:53 +0100<br />
            From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wasabee18@gmail.com">wasabee18@gmail.com</a><br />
            To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu">liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu</a><br />
            Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Heml.is - "The Beautiful &
            Secure Messenger"<br />
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            <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix"> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://whispersystems.org/" target="_blank">https://whispersystems.org/</a>
              already has an open-source secure messaging, voice and
              more.<br />
              Has anyone reviewed their code?<br />
              Does anyone use it?<br />
              Why not build on top of it?<br />
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              On 10/07/13 14:07, Nick wrote:<br />
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                  <pre>noone said it would be closed source. That's peoples guess. Like, your guess, I guess.
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              <pre>According to their twitter account, the answer is "maybe":
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/HemlisMessenger/statuses/354927721337470976" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/HemlisMessenger/statuses/354927721337470976</a>

Peter Sunde (one of the people behind it) said "eventually", but
in my experience promises like that tend to be broken:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://twitter.com/brokep/status/354608029242626048" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/brokep/status/354608029242626048</a>

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                <pre>and the feature 'unlocking' aspect of the project - to be indication of a
proprietary code base.
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              <pre>Frankly I can't see how they could get the "feature unlock" funding
stuff to work well if it's proper open source. As I'd expect people
to fork it to remove such antifeatures. It's a pity, as several new
funding models have been successful recently which are compatible with
free software, but this doesn't look to be one of them.
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