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[protege-owl] Web-Protege: A Lightweight OWL Ontology Editor for the Web

Sherman Monroe smonroe at overdogg.com
Wed Oct 1 11:13:53 PDT 2008


Jennifer,

This is a great tool, thanks. Collaborative ontology tools are sorely
lacking.

-sherman

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jennifer Vendetti <vendetti at stanford.edu>wrote:

>  Hello Riccardo,
>
> We have a demo version of Protege running on this server:
>
> http://bmir-protege-dev1.stanford.edu/webprotege/WebProtege.html
>
> The source code is publicly available from our repository:
>
> http://smi-protege.stanford.edu/repos/protege/web-protege/ (this url is
> for checkout w/a subversion client)
> http://smi-protege.stanford.edu/svn/web-protege/ (this url is for viewing
> source code with ViewVC)
>
> There is some (extremely rudimentary) documentation on our wiki:
>
> http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/index.php/WebProtege
>
> Please note that we are still in the prototyping phase for this
> application.  There is little documentation and as of yet, we do not provide
> a nice way to install via a WAR file.  We will have more time to work on
> getting this in place after we do the 3.4 release.
>
> Jennifer
>
> Riccardo.Grosso at csi.it wrote:
>
>
> Dear Tania and Jennifer,
>
> it is possible to obtain a trial version of Web-Protege, about your
> accepted paper at:
>
>         http://webont.org/owled/2008/accepted-papers.html
>
> ?
>
> Thanks and best regards.
>
> Riccardo.
>
>
>
>   *Tania Tudorache <tudorache at stanford.edu> <tudorache at stanford.edu>*
> Inviato da: protege-owl-bounces at lists.stanford.edu
>
> 07/08/2008 00.31
>   Per favore, rispondere a
> User support for the Protege-OWL editor
> <protege-owl at lists.stanford.edu> <protege-owl at lists.stanford.edu>
>
>    Per
>
>   CC
>  Pellet Users List <pellet-users at lists.owldl.com><pellet-users at lists.owldl.com>,
> User support for the Protege-OWL editor <protege-owl at lists.stanford.edu><protege-owl at lists.stanford.edu>
> Oggetto
>  Re: [protege-owl] [Pellet-users] Starting with ProtegeOwl Classes
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Joseph,
>
> I think your questions are more related to Protege-OWL than Pellet. I
> think we should continue the discussion on the Protege-OWL mailing list.
> I've added it into the cc.
>
> Evren Sirin wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Kormann, Joseph
> > <joseph.kormann at lmco.com <mailto:joseph.kormann at lmco.com><joseph.kormann at lmco.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     Tim,
> >
> >     I put some other emails to the Protégé site. I tried using the
> >     examples from
> >
> <http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/api/ReasonerAPIExamples.html><http://protege.stanford.edu/plugins/owl/api/ReasonerAPIExamples.html>
> >     and others than Tania recommended online.
> >
> The link you gave is the old reasoner API. I suppose you meant this one:
> I suppose you mean this one:
> http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/index.php/ProtegeReasonerAPI
>
> >
> >     A couple of problems that I ran into:
> >     - Converting from a JenaOwlModel into an OntModel is a one-way
> >     process. The OntModel, which can execute Pellet, needs to load the
> >     namespaces *again* and it uses the URLs provided, not the
> >     local-file references. I don't want to rework all the existing
> >     code into Jena just yet.
> >
>
> I don't know what you mean here.. When invoking the direct connection to
> Pellet, the Protege OWL internal model is converted either to a Jena
> model that uses the Pellet reasoner, or to an OWL-API model.  (Default
> in the UI is OWL-API).
>
> >
> > I don't know why reloading is required but normally if you have a Jena
> > model you can create a Pellet-backed model by doing
> >
> > OntModel pelletModel = ModelFactory.createOntologyModel(
> > PelletReasonerFactory.THE_SPEC, originalModel );
> >
> > If there are SWRL rules in the model, Pellet will automatically
> > recognize and reason with them. There are examples in the Pellet
> > distribution with more examples.
> >
> >
> >
> >     - Running the documented ProtegePellet class worked great for
> >     class-level inference, however I didn't see it run the SWRL that
> >     is in the OWL Model.
> >
> >
> > I don't know if Protege translates SWRL rules into the Jena OntModel.
> > But one problem that might occur is when you use the SWRL builtins
> > supported by the SWRLTab of Protege. Pellet does not support those
> > built-in extensions and would ignore rules that contain any
> > unsupported built-in (and log a warning message about it).
>
> The Jena implementation of the Protege-OWL reasoner
> (ProtegePelletJenaReasoner) will convert all the SWRL rules and they are
> sent to Pellet. So you will get in the OWL Model all the SWRL related
> inferences. As Evren said, if you are using custom built-ins from the
> SWRL library, Pellet does not ||support those, and they will not be
> executed.
>
> The default direct connection to Pellet available in Protege 3.4 is the
> OWL-API implementation (ProtegePelletOWLAPIReasoner), that does not
> convert the SWRL rules. So, make sure that you are using in your code
> the ProtegePelletJenaReasoner, rather than the
> ProtegePelletOWLAPIReasoner. We already have the code for the latter one
> but it is not included in the distribution.
>
> If you would like to continue this thread, please do so on the
> Protege-OWL mailing list.
>
> Thanks,
> Tania*||*
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Evren
> >
> >
> >     I've had problems with Protégé 3.4b120 and 3.4b504 about executing
> >     SWRLs in the Protégé UI - those were posted to the Protégé mail list.
> >
> >     -Joseph
> >
> >     > -----Original Message-----
> >     > From: Timothy Redmond [mailto:tredmond at stanford.edu<tredmond at stanford.edu>
> >     <mailto:tredmond at stanford.edu> <tredmond at stanford.edu>]
> >     > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:11 PM
> >     > To: Kormann, Joseph; Pellet Users List
> >     > Subject: Re: [Pellet-users] Starting with ProtegeOwl Classes
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > This message almost looks like it belongs more on the protege owl
> >     > mailing list.
> >     >
> >     > There are items that belong here - how to use pellet with the
> >     owl api
> >     > (I suspect that is actually trivially easy...) and how to use
> pellet
> >     > with an OntModel.  But in general, there are people  on the protege
> >     > owl mailing list who know all the choices on how to use the Protege
> >     > Owl api and pellet.  This includes using  the jena pellet
> >     reasoner and
> >     > the owlapi reasoner through protege owl.
> >     >
> >     > -Timothy
> >     >
> >     > On Aug 6, 2008, at 6:02 AM, Kormann, Joseph wrote:
> >     >
> >     > > I'm starting with ProtegeOwl Classes, mainly because of legacy
> >     code
> >     > > we cannot change at this point. I want to use Pellet as the
> >     > > reasoner. The Protégé Pellet wrapper does not appear to be
> working
> >     > > for SWRL, so I'm looking at how to use the OwlApi classes.
> >     > >
> >     > > I can get an OntModel from ProtegeOwl's JenaOwlModel object.
> >     What is
> >     > > the right sequence of events to execute the Pellet reasoner
> >     against
> >     > > it?
> >     > >
> >     > > Thanks.
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-- 

Thanks,
-sherman

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